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Good morning, good evening. Good afternoon. You guys are watching and listening. Tech TV podcast. And today we have an old friend, Dan Hudema. What’s going on? Dan? Hey, there. How are you doing? Long time no see. It’s been a while. It’s been a while since I’ve been on a podcast, but, uh, we’ll, uh, maybe we’ll do some more after this. You never know. We tried to replace you with AI, but we couldn’t. So that’s why you’re here. Just kidding. And that’s, I think, why we’re we’re, uh, having, um, digital twin. Digital digital twin. That’s right. I remember we scanned you one time. Remember? We scanned you and put you on blender, and, uh, but now, I mean, maybe in the next ten years that that would be feasible, but still, we can’t. But that’s what I wanted to to to know, like you were telling me that you have your your daily business. Yes. And the state of AI. So maybe like to illustrate to the audience, how far have you gone to use AI to help you with your business? And what would you recommend to those entrepreneurs that have some sort of subscription based business like yours, where you still have some human interaction? What are your first recommendations of tools and things that best practices for for AI. Yeah. Right off the bat, um, you know, just the basic use of ChatGPT and OpenAI or perplexity or grok or or any of those, just, just to get one of the bigger challenges for us is we have something like 4 or 500 events posted in the dating business. So we need to somehow get slightly different content for every event. We can’t have the same content every time. So that’s been a little challenge. So one of the places we are using it is to come up with slightly different content each time, or to mix it up because it’s just there’s just too much there. But the but I’ll get into most of my AI projects related to the dating company are underway. I don’t have them finished yet. I’m in the middle. Okay, um, and there’s 4 or 5 there in my head. But everything does take time. Like to build it out. Some of them are, you know, dynamic pricing or things like that, you know, using AI to help. But but you were you were showing me something that I thought was interesting, which is the use of AI for your, uh, creation of, um, short videos. Right? Is that right? Why? Why is that? Let’s talk a little bit about that. Well, this is related to a, a little bit of a blue sky situation going on with the digital marketing side. Excuse me. Right now, what’s happened is Google, a few weeks ago, split videos from short videos on Google search. So I just need to generate a ton of videos right now because we need a video per local market for local keywords. So this is more of an SEO play. There’s there’s two kinds of video I’m generating SEO type video for AI or for SEO in general. Okay. And then there’s some video I’m doing for paid ads as well that we’re getting ready to publish as well. So so you’re basically in a way because you’re in different markets. So your, your, your companies in 50 different markets or, or maybe 75 or 100 markets now. Well, and then you have to address each market and individualize, let’s say Albuquerque. I don’t know, Sonoma or whatever. Yeah. So explain let’s say you have a business in multiple locations or you want to have a multiple location. Is that, um, the way to go? Yes. I’ll tell you one of the reasons why it’s the way to go. So the the thing is that we all need multiple sources. So the whole SEO world, because I remember I used to do SEO, Turbo Boost SEO, generate hundreds of pages for a client. So that doesn’t really work anymore. Um, because Google, not just Google, but AI is smart enough. In other words, if you have a page, if we have a page just about, uh, you know, uh, matchmaking in Boca, we have one page about it. We have a bunch of articles generating more content, blog articles about matchmaking. Boca is not going to help you. Okay, but what does help you is Delray matchmaking does help you because that’s a different set of keywords, and Google sees that differently. Now it’s very close to Boca Raton. So a lot of ways what we’re doing is trying to come up with on the we’re big on SEO. So the SEO side, we’re just trying to build out in a way where we’re having enough content to cover each of these areas. What I’m saying about the SEO thing that’s driving me a little crazy recently, is I need to generate a video for each set of keywords. That’s the way to go. I think for now, that’s this week. It may change. And the problem? The challenge there is, even with, uh, you know, this about five programs that are really popular right now in video. Uh, hey, Jen, uh, Cynthia, Cynthia and about five more. It’s about ten of these video generation products. The problem is I need to make 100 videos, and that takes time. It’s still going to cost. Take me 15 minutes per video. And that may sound like not a lot. That’s a short time from two years ago, when there was six hours of work to make a video. 15 minutes. And you have to hire a guy that actually knew how to use the tools to make the video. But now, three years ago, now we’re in today, 15 minutes to make a decent video, but I’m showing you. And then the other thing that just changed recently is a year ago or six months ago, was making videos that were like, just like with I just that were like, uh, patched together videos and images that with a with a wording on top. That’s all they were right. Now all the services mainly. And um, and in video, I’m not sure of others. Now, what they’ll do is they’ll create a person for you, whether it’s a real person or a synthetically generated, synthetically generated. They’re fake people. Then there’s things called digital twins. Digital twins are real people who basically sold their soul to the AI company. And now, okay, and now that person is your spokesperson, and they don’t even know that they’re your spokesperson. I have a couple of those. And I’m doing this at like under 70 bucks a month right now. Oh, wow. So it’s it’s very, very instead of spending probably a few thousand dollars per week, maybe in the past, you’re just a $70 a month and you do it yourself. That’s the higher end one. That’s 20. You can start at 29. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And so I’m big on that. And the quality just got a lot better. But I’m finding it takes me even more. It’s taking me 25 minutes to make those videos, not 15, because they’re more specific. Um, but my company likes some people like them, and. And the the next thing, I’ll tell you the truth. The next thing. I’m trying to make them spicier. I’m trying to make them say things, get people’s attention because, uh, real videos that get like, a million views are cool and interesting. So I’m trying to make my I guys I videos more interesting these days. You’re trying to make your videos a little bit with a virality a little bit. Do something like, uh, there’s one I sent you where the guy’s like, you know, hey, everybody in Dallas, try this out. Like, I’m trying anything, and I’m looking at other, like, I can have him say anything I want as long as it’s funny. So, um, but you’re you’re converting basically from those videos. Do you have a way to track right now? Like what happens? Okay, I do, I do, And I’m seeing them getting indexed. Well, from TikTok back into Google in the short video category. They’re getting indexed within a few weeks. So basically if you’re if you’re an entrepreneur doing your your social media marketing, forget about SEO, traditional blog crap that doesn’t work. So you’re suggesting that the blue ocean right now is to make short videos for different markets, post them on TikTok, post them on YouTube or on Instagram or Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and then YouTube. Third one short video. So you make three three video on TikTok like 30s 60s. It can’t be more than 60s. I do some under 30. Okay, um, that’s that’s the SEO side of the short video I video generation, but I’m also big on you. Add a description to the video, like a little short snippet or that’s the most important part. Okay, the hashtags, the writing, the content. So I’m using my SEO skill set to push these out. But that’s the SEO side. Then there’s the paid side. Um, I just started experimenting with Facebook advertising and and then can I mention the company I’m working with? Of course. So artificial closers and and Elvis the sales trainer. Um, you know you can go to artificial closers. Com so artificial closers is very interesting. They have a program where they train you to make your own video. That’s the easier part. But the harder training is how to make a Facebook ad and how to post it. Yeah, I try Facebook ads and sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t work and it’s difficult and they charge. They won’t charge you a lot to train you. If you want to have them do the work for you. It’s um, it could be, you know, in the hundreds or thousands of dollars a month, but, um, if you’re selling high ticket item. We were talking about this earlier. The AI videos generated for Facebook that are good and decent could be a great way to go, compared to all the other marketing things you’re doing today. It’s so blue sky ish because I can’t find an agency that says they’ll do this for you. No, actually no agency. What I believe is, is try and carry that training into Facebook ads for, you know, there are, um, various still um, and now and now you can measure. Right. Because you post an ad on Facebook, you can see exactly the insights. Right? You can see the statistics of who is watching that, where is watching that. And you can direct who you want to watch it as well. It’s a few, it’s a few. It’s two months from now. But we are doing a pitch event on September 30th. And at that pitch event, we’re going to show a ton of these AI videos I’ve generated and artificial closers generated. Um, you know, I’ll be up front with you, uh, Lou, who was here earlier and I are affiliates of Artificial closers, and we are if somebody if it’s the right business, we recommend they check out these guys. No. That’s great. That’s great. In fact, that the reason why we’re here is because we wanted to discuss not only how, like, some people see AI like like a gimmicky thing, but there’s like there’s use for AI in the real world, for business, for your business. The area that excites me the most, though, tell us what it is. Agents excite me the most because, um, you know, I’m envisioning I have I actually have three computers at home, three laptops, and one’s under my staircase. Right. That one is already doing something like an agent is a custom. It’s a custom. I can’t get into it totally, but it’s a custom program that’s a Google extension that runs every ten minutes and it’s moving data around, you see. So agents basically, in a way, are replacing your workers that existed in the past because I remember like maybe like five years, six years before, like prior to this AI revolution, you would hire people in the Philippines or the Ukraine or those countries, maybe like 6 to $20 an hour, whatever it was, and they will do that work in now, those agents are capable of learning and doing more things and are capable of reasoning, in fact, and there are many platforms for agents. What do you think about this? All these new agent platforms that are out there. What what do you recommend? Um, you know, the one, the one that’s the best and I don’t I want to use it, but I’m nervous. Is the proxy agents work the best? But the problem with them is you have to give up. Like, if you want them, you’re giving the data. Yeah, you don’t want that. They work great, though, right? I’ve tried out convergence. Proxy convergence I okay, you go there today and say hey go off and get me this information. It does it instantly. Like it’s it’s amazing. It’s it’s a prompt that goes and surfs the web and does whatever task you want. Right. But the problem is, when it comes to the login, you have to give it like I wanted it to log into, I don’t know, Twitter or meetup or Facebook. I have to give it a login. It says, oh, we won’t steal your data. But like I’m a little nervous about it. No, I that’s why I prefer the to create your own with the crawl for I for example I’ve been using that and I’ve been using my my my amqp. Basically MCP is more concert protocol where you actually is a way to translate websites into meaningful things for the for the language model. So your agents are really but you run it locally. You don’t have to run it for, um, I mean, you could use some services. But here’s the thing. The proxy one, that convergence one is so it’s so prompt based. It’s so easy. You can actually take the prompt and put a variable in. Yes. Turn it into a program I will say that for the desktop yet okay. So if you have maybe perhaps data that is not that important for you, or maybe you’re mind losing it, then go ahead. But maybe, um, if you have more sophisticated data, let’s say you could lose. Yeah. Certain logins happening. Yeah. So that that that would be dangerous. So you don’t want that to happen. So tell tell me more about the startup scene here. Basically you see more AI startups, uh, in the area coming up or or not. I’m not seeing as many. We had a ton of startups. I’m a partner in a startup. Pain, a pain. I, as you know, we I saw a ton of startups. Remember a year ago, year and a half ago. Right. And it was like a gold rush, a gold rush, really. And some of them were really successful. But recently I’m not seeing as many AI startups. What I’m seeing is more AI agencies more than like rapidly being created guys who I just ran into a guy yesterday at an event he’ll ChatGPT just launched, that they’re going to have 1000 consultants. Yeah. So the consultant business is booming and they can accomplish so much for you. I had guys quoting me on creating those agents for me last night. Um, you know, there’s so much opportunity with AI that, um, you know, I have one guy I talk to every Friday. He says, give me a business with spreadsheets and using AI and automation, I can, you know, eliminate jobs and quadruple their sales. So the opportunity is right now seems to be in consulting growth in AI consulting. Wow. Wow. That’s that’s very impressive because I think this this is a very, uh, it reminds me when the first websites, uh, appear or in the 1990s, 1997, 1996, where, uh, few people knew how to code HTML. Yeah. So then a lot of people created hosting services. They became consultants and made millions. I think it’s going to continue for next 2 or 3 years as a consulting business. Um, there’s one company. I had a call with them out of, um, out of London, I think out of Czechoslovakia. And they have a team of people they’re calling themselves. I can’t remember their calling. But anyway, I don’t know what they were calling, but they definitely do AI and they will do automate. They’ll do the make implementation for you, or they’ll do the, uh, the program I like. What’s it called? Uh, fill out com implementation for you. They’ll integrate that with the ChatGPT for you. Okay. You basically give them the specs. They’ll also train you to know that’s that’s that’s phenomenal. That’s phenomenal that those consulting companies. So you want to be a consultant in AI and make we let’s just mention those do it Zapier and make those are like connectors. Yeah. The big connectors that exist. In fact the Xavier I think is one of the that has been taking a lot of, uh, increased usage because of the n by eight. Uh uh uh. Yeah. Connectors. Right. They have so so anyway, so so let’s, let’s, let’s discuss a little bit. That is a kind of like concerning for the population, which is the state cover of AI, basically. Like you’re saying things that it took thousands of hours to make in the past. Now it takes a few, a few I don’t I don’t see I don’t see a job growth with this. Or do you see job loss growth first and then job loss. We’re not yet at the job loss stage. I think we’re at the job growth stage because, uh, in other words, this consultants, for example, are going to have a job of job creation going on. Right now. We don’t have high unemployment. We don’t have problems yet. But the bigger problem we’re going to face in the future are layoffs in customer service. It’s coming layoffs and customer service. Because when I worked at Bell Atlantic 30 years ago, we had teams of like 500 on the floor, 1000 people. Those will be cut dramatically. So customer service is going to be cut. And the big problem I related is truck driving. I think truck driving is a disaster. Coming. Uh, it’s a slow. How about how about Uber right now? Uber just announced the acquisition of potential acquisition of lucid. So that sounds like they have a fleet of autonomous cars. Yeah. So what do you think that, uh, that that effect. I think those guys represent a chunky a little, little small percentage of the population. You know, those people are like flexible workers who go off to get some other work and so forth. I’m not so concerned about them. I’m concerned about, you know, truck drivers who make 75,000 to 180,000 a year being told, hey, your job is eliminated. And they don’t and they’re living in the middle of nowhere. They don’t have any income. So we could see violence. We could see protests. We could see, uh, high unemployment rates in rural areas. I think the rural see, in a rural area that truck driver can’t find another job. No, of course, but in the city, the Uber driver. I know tons of people. We know people do Uber driving. They switch and they go to work at Starbucks. They go to work at the restaurant they find there. They’re like hourly. But don’t you think like this? Like maybe in the next ten years when Starbucks is fully automated, just like in some stores are in, in LA, they have some samples where they have automation like that. And when when we go to when you go to McDonald’s and all our machines there, McDonald’s is really crushed. I was just in McDonald’s. There’s no person taking an order allowed in my McDonald’s. So they’ve already eliminated a lot of jobs at McDonald’s. Now you’re saying in the back side they’re going to take they went down. There may be more engineers working at McDonald’s than than before. Is that for sure? 25 employees down to 18 there, right? But you’re saying they’re going to be down to seven. They just have the there will be like maybe like two engineers that are taking care of or maybe one manager and they’ll need a guy to wash the floors. They’re still the guy. The guy outside is cutting the lawn. Look, you know, I think that, um, I think what is happening is increased productivity first, so. Right. And, and that AI is definitely going to affect like McDonald’s. Um, they do have the touch screen, right? But they don’t have a person, a person yet. They will have the AI person soon. Okay. On the screen they’ll be like, hey, Edwin, what do you what what are you looking for today? Is that going to change the touch screen much? No, it’s not going to change job jobs at all. That one I think for now we’re not looking at a major downturn in jobs for now until some larger corporations start doing structural layoffs. Then. Then there’s some troubles. Yeah. No. So I think I think you’re totally correct. I think we’re seeing the tip of the iceberg. So but we hopefully you hopefully get up to speed with AI and start turning the tides instead of being just a simple user of ChatGPT. So to to know what is going on, maybe you become a consultant and help someone else with a business to to mature. Or most of our listeners are going to be from South Florida or. No, I think they’re I’ve seen I’ve seen a lot of people from all over the world, actually, most of the people we have South Florida people. But I think you have an event, maybe we go there, uh, in September. What, September 30th, Boca Raton at 980 spaces. And in fact, we’re where today we’re recording for 980 spaces. If you see this is not the studio that we have, usually this is 980 spaces is located in Boca Raton, right a little south of Glades and US1 right. Is, uh, around this area. It’s the second floor, and they’re taking the first floor and the second floor because this was, uh, really are interested in I, I highly recommend the Silver Logix event. They have an eye event the last Friday of every month. Okay. Happy. They have a little networking and a speaker. And I’ve been the last. I’ve been to two of the last five events or three of the last five events. They’re excellent. Excellent. And they’re in Boca Raton last Friday of every month. If you look up the silver logic, those events, I’ve picked up some. That’s why I know all about N810. Okay. That’s okay. Okay. That’s great. That’s great. No. And then one last thing I wanted to see is that we have this, uh, this, uh, place here in any other spaces. So we bring, uh, the person in charge, What’s her name? Uh, Amanda. Okay. Amanda. Amanda. She will be with us. Uh, and she’s going to tell us a little bit more of this location. Yeah. All right. She talks. Whatever. All right then. So we had a great time. One more time. There’s, like, uh. I guess we are restarting TGI Fridays from nine spaces for now. Terrific. Terrific. We’ll, uh. We’ll next time, we’ll get. If we do it again. Next time we’ll get into I matchmaking my future. You’re right. I matchmaking, so if you’re single or ready to mingle, I will find you a boyfriend or a girlfriend. Or maybe you fell in love with I. And maybe you find your. You create your own I tween. I’m going to get a I’m going to get us a subject matter. I’m going to get us a single person on here. Okay. We’ll we’ll bring a single person that that. All right. Stay tuned for I matchings. Thanks again. Thank you. Dan. Bye bye. Bye. So. Hi, Amanda. How are you? Good. How are you doing? It’s a pleasure to have you guys here today. Yeah. Thank you for for having us here. It’s a it’s an amazing location. I love the lighting. Everything looks pretty cool. So what’s, what’s going on with non-native spaces? Like what’s what do you guys have here. Yeah. So we’re really excited. We just expanded within our building here. Um, we have some private offices and co-working desks available. Um, great for individuals or teams if you’re working from home or you need a satellite office, um, we can accommodate you and customize, um, some options. And what are the price ranges for people? I saw you have, like a co-working space. You have a small office. What people should expect in terms of budget, um, for the coworking, um, start around $300 per month. Okay. Um, we have options on 24 hour access, business hour access, dedicated desks. Um, and then we do have private offices starting around $700 per month. Um, so these are fully furnished. Move in. Ready. All amenities are included. Um, your utilities, your internet, um, furniture. So, um, all you have to do is bring your equipment set up, kind of like you did today. You’re ready to roll. All right, all right. Thank you so much. And when when, when is the the you have there’s a form on on here and underneath. Is that for what like seven days off. Is that right. That’s like yeah. All uh, if you click the link there, it’ll take you to our, one of our landing pages where you can sign up for, um, a free week of office space, um, to come in and try it out. Um, and we’d love to have you and, um, see how this space works for you. All right, all right. Thank you so much, Amanda. Certainly, we’ll promote your space. And thanks again for having us here. Yeah, anytime. We look forward to it. Thank you. All right, all right.